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Hah. I was JUST wondering how to do this after stumbling across another blog that did so.

Thanks for the practical advice. You’ve once again confirmed that I need to stay subscribed to your feed.

Nice little guide , since I don’t get many trackbacks I don’t think it’d really matter in which way I display them to begin with though . By far the most avid trackbackers for my blog are spammers, hehe. Those are nicely being blocked from public of course.

But I’ll keep this in mind for if it ever would occur that I would start getting a lot of them .

WordPress is so messy with its PHP in the HTML. I wonder how long it will take for a new higher grade blogging software to knock them of their spot?

I use a much more complicated way of doing this, but it allows me to count them separately and run totally different loops for them.

My comments.php is huge because of all this

I like seeing them separated on other blogs, and I’ve been thinking about doing it one mine. I just haven’t made the time to do it, so thanks for the reminder.

Nice! I’ve seen this once or twice on blogs and thought it was kind of cute.
Perhaps I will do this on my blog, even though I get very few trackbacks!

Michael Martine with an E – I started making a theme based on Sandbox and found the code to be so bloated and messy that I didn’t know where to start! How do you find working with it?

Thanks! That worked great!

No worries on the author color comment thing, I am not skilled at coding… anything. I may have messed something up. I intend on trying again

Future topic suggestion…. how you make your columns start lower and extend your header on that one part to put that quote in. That would rule (if I could figure it out that is lol).

Arrggh. I just found out it appeared in one of my post. This post of yours is going to be useful.

I totally agree with you, it’s always best to seperate trackbacks and human comments.

You’re using a modified Copyblogger – I found that code in my theme too (also Coppyblogger). I don’t think that the function separating them is activated by default in CB – from Chris’s comment about it. Are you sure that your trackbacks are not showing up as comments? Perhaps they can be excluded from the admin?

In light of the function not being active you could probably still use this code and leave that over code alone (I’m thinking of doing that).

Kristarella: I love what you’ve done with the CB theme!

Unfortunately, this won’t work for me because the language referenced is not in the comment.php file, so I don’t know where to start to implement this work around.

I’m sure . . . my trackbacks and pings are definitely not showing up at all except in my dashboard.

Thanks.

Oops – unclear comments – I meant my trackbacks were showing up before, so I don’t know if what I’ve done to my file will work for JHS.
Anyway, it’s all working nicely. Thanks for the instructions!

I tried placing the code where Kristarella suggested.

You can see the result here:
http://www.jhsiess.com/hereslo.....-on-track/

You see 5 comments there.

But if you go to the homepage, you will see that under the post excerpt (it is the last post on the front page), the verbiage is “17 Comments.”

I use the Better Comments Manager plugin and I have a total of 17 comments, pings and trackbacks there.

So they are coming in, but are not showing up.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide!

I see what you mean JHS, that’s weird the 17/5 comments thing. There is a chance that a plugin is causing that Even though the plugin doesn’t really have anything to do with trackbacks. How much do you actually use that plugin?
I can email you my comments file. No problem.

Hey pablopabla,
I’m not great with php, but I think I have what you’re looking for.
<ol class="trackbacks">
<?php foreach ($comments as $comment) : ?>
<?php $comment_type = get_comment_type(); ?>
<?php if($comment_type != 'comment') { ?>
<h3>Trackbacks ↓</h3>
<li><?php comment_author_link() ?></li>
<?php } ?>
<?php endforeach; ?>
</ol>

In the h3 tag I’ve got my Trackback title, which should only show up when there are trackbacks (because it’s after the “if” thing. You could put whatever you want there.

Bother! You are absolutely right. I actually have so few trackbacks that it was difficult to find a post with 2 on it! (I guess I’m hoping for more in the future )

In that case, I too would like an answer to the question!

That’s a good idea!
But, do you have an example?
A screenshot of the results would be very helpful in deciding if I’m going to use that.

(I most likely will, but a screenshot will be helpful)

Thanks so much!
I am going to use that now!

Thanks for the tip Michael. However, is it possible to further tweak it so that the customisation (the line between the ) does not appear at all when there are no trackbacks to a post? At the moment, the customisation appears in all posts.

Hey Forrest – this is a really great solution. I agree that trackbacks interrupt the comversation.

See Gary’s comment for the solution to that issue. I’m using his code on my blog.

I guess I should have read all of the comments first…! Before I came back and saw that, I implemented more or less the same thing in javascript, but this is a cleaner solution overall. So for the second time thanks!

I usually only come back when someone has an issue that they’re trying to solve

Thanks for this tip, it’s helped

One thing though. My site keeps on making trackbacks to itself whenever I link back to another article of mine. Can I stop it from doing this? I’m using WP 2.3.2

Thanks for the link Martin, and yes the plugin does work, for all you people out there with the same problem.

WordPress automatically sends itself trackbacks, and auto-publishes them.  I go back and delete them manually;  occasionally I’ll actually want to let one remain.If a reder discovers my blog through an old post, [self] trackbacks are a good way to connect that post to other specific ones on the same subject, or that refer to it in a meaningful way.  My post on The Gorge is a good example.Food for thought, anyway…

My blog gets scraped a bit.  It sounds like that’s been more of a problem either in the past or for other people, but it’s at least an annoyance.In a recent interview, Matt Cutts said that when Google sees the same content showing up on ten pages on ten different sites, but nine of them link back to one that doesn’t link out to any of the others, they assume it’s scraped, and transfer any pagerank the copies might attain to the original.  ( He wasn’t clear about whether you need to link to the specific page or just back to the domain the original was published on? )It’s neighborly to link out, but I wouldn’t let the trackbacks stop me from linking back to earlier posts.

Well, I got a little lost in this conversation. I think I got the gist though… I’ve had a few of those slightly dodgy trackbacks. Where the blog looked like nothing more than copying sections of text with a link to the author. One of them was extremely dodgy and caled me “americanshopper” rather than “kristarella”!

Should I delete all trackbacks that don’t look useful to me?

Spectacular – works great! Thank you!

I was using Camino the last couple of times.Now I’m trying Safari.

And now that I’ve added more code;

Will

This

Work?

(Sorry about the emails Kristarella! xD )

EDIT – The line breaks worked for me now. What about you?

THANK YOU for this post! It was making me crazy that my trackback’s were coming in as comments. Now that’s all fixed.

Looks great, but I get a W3.org invalid page error. Do you know how to fix this?
end tag for “ol” which is not finished
Most likely, you nested tags and closed them in the wrong order. For
example <p><em>…</p> is not acceptable, as <em>
must be closed before <p>. Acceptable nesting is:
<p><em>…</em></p>

Another possibility is that you used an element which requires
a child element that you did not include. Hence the parent element
is “not finished”, not complete. For instance, in HTML the <head> element
must contain a <title> child element, lists (ul, ol, dl) require list items (li,
or dt, dd), and so on.

Millionare Money Habits – are you sure you’re implementing the code correctly?

I’m using this method and I don’t get validation errors. Here’s the output from a page that’s got lots of trackbacks. There are errors, but they’re all for a plugin that has nothing to do with this.

Thanks Michael. I made the changes, but still get the W3C invalid response on posts that only have trackbacks and now comments.

Post that only have comments and no trackbacks are validating now, so there’s progress.

Thanks!

I guess it’s no biggie – i’m just being anal in having my pages validate for SEO purposes.I guess the easy thing to do would be to just add a comment to those posts. Thanks for all the help and quick replies!

Oh, ok. I didn’t realize that. I thought it mattered for SEO. Thanks again!

Hum, I guess what comes around will come around.

Coincidense…

I’m loving this little trick. Really clearly explained. I never really get trackbacks, but it still is pretty usefule

Thanks .. it worked very well   

nice tip,thanks

Thanks for the tip..nice work and site looks too nice

This is a great tutorial, thanks a lot. I’m just off to implement it now.

I’ve wanted to do this for a while, as trackbacks take up as much space as a comment at the moment, and people(ie me on other blogs) tend not to be as interested in them.

Thanks again

ive been reading this blog a while but this is my first comment. thank you for your article and your views

Great tip, thank you so much!!!

Btw, is there any code that makes possible to not count the trackbacks/pingbacks in the number of comments?

For example, in a post I have 5 comments.
1 for a user and 4 trackbacks.
I only want to show 1 comment instead of 5 comments.

Is possible? how?

arghhhhhhh almostttttttttttt…..
Is not working 100%, only appears the value, dont appears the word “comments”.

Appears for example “0″
Insteat of “0 comments”

Michael Martin, please can you give a look at the code for me? please?

If not, well, thank you anyway, it was a great help, better then nothing hehe

Michael Martin, I dont want to abuse of my luck but……..

Can you take a look at the plugin code for me? To find a way to make for example “0 comments” clickable, or in another words, make that as a link like “http://www.domain.com/post title/#comments” or “http://www.domain.com/post title/#respond”.

I really appreciate your help

You are the MAN! Thank you so much mate!

thanks, very nice tips !!

Thank you SO much for this post. I tried about 3 different ways before this, 2 of which worked, and none which were standards compliant when there were no trackbacks. This was easy to implement and customize. Thanks!

Thanks,

It’s a very easy solution, and it looks much better now on my blog!

Useful tutorial – I just tested it and works perfectly.

Instead of having a separate trackback area, I used only the code to remove it from the comments loop – I’m done with trackbacks. Rarely do I get genuine trackbacks, in any case (I also removed the RDF-something HTML comment for autodiscovery). I also moved the comment form above the comment loop – I think it would solicit more comments.

I’m thinking of actually removing trackbacks altogether. I think they add clutter – your site looks nice and clean without them. Hmmm….

Thank you very much, worked great!

step by step thank you in mind for if it ever would occur that I would start getting a lot of them

i agree with your opinon. thank you for this post. very intresting. i like it.

Nice Tips
Thank you for Share This

Thanks very much .. it worked ok.

Oh, perfect! I learned it